i5-750 vs i5-7500: Can An 8 Year Old i5 Still Game? (IN 2019!)

July 31, 2019 posted by


How far have Intel’s i5 processors come
since the first generation? Howdy howdy guys, ponchato here, and today
we’ll be taking a look at the first processor in the i5 series, the 750, versus its most
recent successor, the i5-7500. The i5-750 was released back in September
of 2009, which actually makes it one of the very first “Core i” series processors
ever. It’s built on the 45nm Lynnfield architecture,
which sounds pretty quaint by modern standards. The 750 used Intel’s LGA 1156 socket and
ran with DDR3 memory. It’s a 4 core, 4 thread processor, just
like modern i5s, running at 2.66GHz and a 95W TDP. With a launch price right around $200, the
i5-750 was priced identically to the 7500. And that’s our modern contender, Intel’s
i5-7500. This one was released in January of 2017 as
part of Intel’s 14nm Kaby Lake architecture. It uses the LGA 1151 socket and runs with
DDR4 memory. Like the 750 and all i5s that succeeded it,
the i5-7500 is a 4 core, 4 thread processor. It runs at 3.4GHz and has a much tighter 65W
TDP. MSRP for the 7500 was right around $200 at
launch, almost 8 years after the 750. The i5-750 I’m using is running with DDR3
memory, while the i5-7500 is using DDR4. Other than that, the systems basically are
identical with 8GB of RAM, an RX 480 4GB, and booting off an SSD. First up, we’ll look at Cinebench. Running both CPU tests, the i5-7500 scores
603 in multicore and 164 in single core. Compare that to the i5-750 getting a somewhat
less impressive 330 in multicore and 94 in single core. That’s an 83% increase in multicore performance
and a 74% increase in single core, even though the 7500 is only clocked about 28% faster
than the 750. This is a good example of IPC (or ‘Instructions
Per Clock’) performance. Not only does the 7500 run faster, it also
does more work per clock cycle. As we get closer and closer to the upper limit
of Moore’s law, efficiency increases like this will become more and more important. Now the game results. First up, Battlefield 1. As expected, the difference is much more dramatic
at low settings, where processor speed is the limiting factor rather than GPU speed. On low settings, the 7500 almost doubles the
750’s average frame rate at 183 vs 108 FPS. Lows are also almost doubled at 97 vs 56 in
1% and 65 vs 35 in 0.1%. The trend continues on medium settings with
the 7500 averaging 45FPS more than the 750, 1% lows up 32FPS, and 0.1% lows up 30FPS. On high settings, the averages are much closer;
there’s only a 10% difference between the two processors. That means we’re starting to get bottlenecked
by the GPU. Lows still show a fairly significant difference
with the 750 trailing by 22% and 36% in 1% and 0.1% lows, respectively. On ultra the story is similar with averages
only diverging by 7 frames per second but lows are a bit further apart than on high
settings: about 27% higher 1% lows and 55% higher 0.1% lows. In fact, looking across the 750’s results
from low up to ultra, you can see that the processor is the biggest factor in restricting
performance; there’s only a 28FPS difference between low and ultra. Next, Counter Strike: Global Offensive. Because this game is so graphically simple,
processor speed ends up being the dominant factor even on high settings. Looking at the graph, the 750 averages almost
65% slower on low settings. There’s a 49 FPS delta in 1% lows and 22
FPS delta in 0.1% lows. On medium settings, averages diverged by 79%,
1% lows by 88%, and 0.1% lows more than doubled on the 7500. Similarly on high, the 750’s average FPS
trailed by about 77% compared to the 7500. 1% lows and 0.1% lows were both more than
double with the 7500. It should be noted that 1% lows reached down
to 22FPS and 0.1% lows hit 7, with the older i5-750. Not exactly what you want in a competitive
shooter. Third is Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. Honestly I did not expect this game to show
such a big performance difference between the two processors, since it’s so graphically
intensive. On low settings, the 750 trails by 17 frames
per second average, 14 FPS in 1% lows, and 8 FPS in 0.1% lows. On medium settings the averages are much closer,
only 3 frames apart, but lows are still divergent with an 8FPS difference in the 1% case and
11FPS difference in the 0.1% case. On ultra, where the GPU is bottlenecking hard,
averages are identical at 39 FPS. Lows still show a difference with the 7500
almost maintaining 30FPS all the time, while the 750 drops down to 24FPS in the slowest
1% of frames and 15FPS in the slowest 0.1%. If you’re running at medium or better settings,
a faster processor won’t do much for average FPS, but it can make a big difference in lows. Fourth in the lineup is GTA V, and the weird
“stuttering on low settings” problem rears its ugly head again. On low, the 750 averages 94FPS with 1% lows
at 67FPS and 0.1% lows at 61FPS. That’s pretty respectable performance from
a processor that’s almost a decade old. The 7500 bugs out on us and even though it
averages 125, the low frames hit about 8FPS. Basically unplayable, but this is more of
a glitch than a performance problem. On medium, the performance improvement is
very notable. The 7500 averages almost 40FPS faster than
the 750, just under 30FPS faster in the 1% lows, and 28FPS faster in the 0.1% lows. On high settings, the 7500’s worst case
lows once again match or beat the 750’s average; the 7500 hits 64FPS in 1% lows while
the 750 averages, overall, 64FPS. That’s a pretty handy performance delta. Next is Just Cause 3. Because this game is so heavy on CPU and memory,
I figured that the i5-7500 would just destroy the 750. Not just due to its faster processing speed,
but also because of the significantly faster DDR4 memory. One look at the graph confirms that hypothesis. On low, the 7500 averages almost two and a
half times faster than the 750. 1% lows are nearly double at 49FPS versus
28, and 0.1% lows bump up 12FPS with the 7500. On medium, the 7500 averages 63FPS higher
than the 750, 14 FPS higher in 1% lows, and 5FPS higher in 0.1% lows. High settings were a bit more interesting;
the 750’s average was well below the 7500s and the 1% lows trailed by 25%, but the 0.1%
lows were actually better on the 750 than on the 7500. We can probably chock this one up to measurement
error or some background process turning on while benchmarking, but it’s an interesting
note. Sixth in the lineup is Blizzard’s Overwatch. To me, these results are just bizarre. I can’t figure this game out. On low, averages are identical due to the
built-in hard cap of 300FPS but this time it’s the 750, not the 7500, that leads in
lows. The 8 year old 750 runs 15FPS higher 1% lows
and a pretty sizable 42FPS gain in 0.1% lows. On high settings the results are nearly identical
around a 226FPS average, 175 FPS 1% low, but a 15FPS difference in 0.1% lows. On ultra, the results are actually pretty
much identical; 116 FPS average, 76-ish FPS 1% lows, and 60FPS in the 0.1% lows. Performance in this game has always been a
bit wonky to me. Always smooth and non-distracting, definitely,
but weird once you put it on a graph. Two processors this far apart in age really
shouldn’t be performing the same. Weird. Next up is the game that just passed DOTA
2 in highest number of simultaneous players on Steam: PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds. Looking at the graph, on low settings the
750 only trails by 12 frames per second average. 1% lows have a bigger 18FPS gap, and 0.1%
lows are down by 4FPS. On medium settings, the 7500 once again only
leads by about 10% in the average. 1% lows are up 8FPS and 0.1% lows up 5; not
too big of a difference. On ultra the 750 trails by about 8% in the
average, but a much more sizable 16FPS in 1% lows and 8FPS in 0.1% lows. Based on these results, it looks like this
game is mostly bound by the GPU, rather than the processor. Last in the gaming lineup is Rocket League. Being an esports title with easy-to-render
graphics, I expected this game to show a big difference in performance, especially at low
settings. The graph confirms that hypothesis. On low, the 7500 leads average FPS by over
120 frames per second. 1% lows were up 80 frames, and 0.1% lows were
up a much smaller 17FPS. On medium, once again the 7500 was far ahead
on average: 275FPS versus the 750’s 168. 1% lows from the 7500 also showed a significant
60% gain over the 750, but 0.1% lows closed the gap again at 103FPS for the 750 and 126FPS
for the 7500. High settings showed the smallest performance
gains, likely since the GPU is taxed much more heavily at this level. Averages for the 750 and 7500 were 138FPS
and 165FPS respectively, with the 750 trailing in 1% lows by 24FPS and 0.1% lows by 17 frames
per second. These results are just about in line with
the difference in multicore performance measured in Cinebench. So the 750 falls pretty far behind the 7500
in most games. But, how does it hold up in power consumption
and temperatures? At idle, the 750 stayed around 30C. While gaming in CSGO, it fluctuated quite
a bit but stayed around 54C. While stress testing with Prime95, the i5-750
hit 61C. The 8 year newer i5-7500 idled around 33C. During gaming in CSGO it averaged right around
50C, and while stress testing the 7500 peaked at 59C. Both CPUs were cooled by fairly typical aftermarket
tower coolers; the 750 had an old Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus while the 7500 was cooled by
a Deepcool Gammaxx 400. So the temperatures actually aren’t that
much different, but what about power consumption? Sitting idle on the desktop, the 750 used
61W. The 7500 actually used more at idle; 68W. While gaming, however, the 750 falls behind. In CSGO, the 750 drew 235W from the wall,
while the 7500 only took 204W. While stress testing, the difference is even
more pronounced with the 750 taking 272W and the 7500 only using 232W. Not a big enough difference that you’d need
a different power supply to run the old processor, but big enough to be worth noting. Based on the comparisons in this video, you
may get the impression that the 750 is a worthless CPU because it’s so much slower than a modern
i5. But, actually, I think the data shows the
opposite. It can still maintain 60+ FPS in most games,
and in some games (particularly esports titles), it can keep up 120FPS or better. An old i5-750 build can easily be brought
up to run modern games if you just drop in a recent graphics card and install 8GB of
memory. In fact in a lot of these benchmarks, the
limiting factor was the GPU, not the processor. So is the 8 year old i5-750 still relevant
in 2017? I think it is. If you want to get notified of new videos
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I’ll see you in the next video.

63 Comments

63 Replies to “i5-750 vs i5-7500: Can An 8 Year Old i5 Still Game? (IN 2019!)”

  1. Retro Adventure says:

    Holy crap! You take benchmarking to a whole new level!

  2. GameTech Reserve says:

    This is why I decided to hang on to my litecoins instead of cashing them in for a new ryzen build. I'm bored as hell with my 6 year old rig, but it will still be sufficient at least a few more years which is mind boggling to me. Hardware used to turn to junk after only a few years. Now, it looks more like maybe 10 years. I think maybe it has to do with consoles holding things back.. I mean developers focusing on weak ass consoles so the games don't push PC hardware as far as they could. Then I thought maybe it was the multi-core innovation and how developers lagged behind on making software that could use all the cores, so by the time they caught up even older cpu's were still relevant as long as they were at least quad core. There is a third thought I had and that is Moore's law is no longer holding up at least not for hardware that is available to us mortal consumers.

  3. KevinFitness says:

    If you have a GTX 1060 3GB with a i5-7500 it's so works so so so well

  4. Prophet says:

    still usable

  5. Nigging Negro says:

    It's surprising that i5-750 is still being benchmarked. It's was a good CPU at the time.

  6. Adam Short says:

    You have one of the most professional YouTube channels I have ever seen, you deserve more subs and I will definitely be recomending this channel to people. Keep it up!

  7. Clancy says:

    Awesome, documenting the 1%/0.1% lows are very important to fluidity when gaming. Thanks man

  8. Alek Cummings says:

    I love your videos. I hope you keep it up and make it big here. Don't forget about the little people lol.

  9. Itz_Manos GR says:

    Athlon X4 950 Vs G4560 Vs R3 1200 with an OC part 2? Keep the good work up.

  10. Lenny Kitoko says:

    Pubg also passed csgo i think

  11. Sydon says:

    U should also benchmark a i5-7600k vs i5-2500k
    Would be fun 🙂

  12. Razor MAN says:

    Also, if you overclock it to 3.7GHz you can really push it!

  13. gr33n Tech says:

    After the i5 2nd generation stuff didn't changed much, if i had one i wouldn't change it, for these new sky/kabylakes or even probably the new covfefe lake ones, well those come with more cores like Ryzen but still, well i went Ryzen so i don't care for covfefe lake.

  14. Gonzalo Cativa says:

    No overclock? what?

  15. Geribeuh says:

    Good video ! But i think your csgo scores are a bit strange, i get much more higher avg framerate with an i5 750, with no stutter at all ! Your .1% lows are very low too, i dont get those results…
    Great processor, overclock it to 3,7-3,8ghz and you can play every videos games today !

  16. Brandon Kruger says:

    Ponchato would you kindly do a i5 3570 vs i5 7500 detailed build such as this?

  17. FourEyedGeek says:

    I'm still playing AAA games and using an Oculus Rift on my i5-750 at 4.0Ghz.

  18. Klaidas HQ says:

    Im still with i5 750 oced to 3,8ghz and a gtx 980

  19. SimAnt says:

    i5 750 @3.4ghz with a gtx 970 and i'm still happy after 8 yrs 🙂

  20. Shreder83 says:

    i5 750 @ 3.8ghz and 970GTX 1500mhz/4000Mhz

  21. Radosław Panek says:

    Remember that with the first gen you can overclock the CPU to 4GHz with no issues.
    Actually you can switch to some cheap 4c/8t xeon on this socket and have extra threads that might probably help. Speaking of more threads, LGA 1366 platform is even better, as you can have some cheap 4c/8t or 6c/12t units that can be overclocked to 4+GHz and still rock today.

  22. RAY M says:

    for the 750
    it didnt have k or non k Varient so you can Overclock

    Its pretty good on Stock and Overclockes Easily

    of you just want on 1st gen cpu for cheap price

    870 is another choice

  23. Patrick vdv says:

    nice to see , I'm typing this on an I5 750 which i bought in jan 2010 – nice to see this old geezer hold it up ( a bit) 🙂

  24. TABLA GURUKUL says:

    Plz can you do a similar video with i5 2400 and i5 7500, if you have the time. Ty.

  25. Slug Jones says:

    Great vid man. Just found an old PC in my collection with a intel board with an i5 760 and was debating adding some ram and a 1050 for my son a little cheap gaming PC. Looks like it will do just fine.

  26. Wallace Tan says:

    Lol I5 750 is probably on PCIE 2.0 rather than PCIE 3.0. I am not sure whether it matters, i forgot the comparisons of the two already

  27. ayman jeffrey says:

    definetly the most professional reviews channel i've ever seen . you deserve more subs and views man . keep it up and thank you for the detailed review

  28. Zimmerpflanze says:

    sorry, but i dont like this kind of benchmarks. You must alteast match the CPU speed. Because i5 750 has a score of ~450 in CB R15 at the same speed as the i5 7500 ( 3,8 Ghz )

  29. Henry Osborne says:

    Xeon 3450 (hyperthreaded version) runs well on modern games at 4.0 GHZ paired with a GTX 970 at 1440p. Almost entirely GPU bottlenecked.

  30. LuNaTiC GR says:

    103 fps on pubg with the i5 75?
    Dude,you gotta tell me your secret
    My specs are:
    I5 750 @3.2ghz
    16gb ddr3 @1600mhz
    R9 390 8gb
    I get about of 45-65 fps on average. How can i improve my framerate and make it like yours?

  31. Christian Seehausen says:

    I'm still on a 2500 from 2010 (no K, no overclocking) and I'm still bottlenecked by my GTX 970 in most modern games. With a few notable exceptions, CPU just isn't that important in gaming.

  32. Anup Sonawane says:

    hey i have an inapiron 580 i.e (core i5 650, 8gb ddr3 1333mhz ram ,h57 chipset motherboard) i want to install gtx 1050 ti in my this old pc will it support and how will my i5 650 (1st gen ) perform with gtx 1050 ti i am happy to play games in 40 fps 1080p reso medium settings. and does gtx 1050ti support legacy bios to boot ?

  33. aLonelyRat says:

    Are you dumb?
    Look at the boost clock of the 7500, i mean the real all core boost.

  34. Renato Medeiros says:

    this shit video card is bottleneck all over the test

  35. Patroid says:

    are my gtx 1060 6gb and i 5 4460 enough for minesweeper ? or should i upgrade to a titan v i9 system ???

  36. Baassbooster says:

    i5 [email protected] with HD7970 and 16gb ram thank you very much

  37. Stalker 90 says:

    Overwatch shows that pc gaming is pure coding FRAUD with coding to make planned obsolence and sell new hardware easy as that. All games have compilers for cpus and same for gpus coding, all games can run much better with proper programing.

  38. lasses rör says:

    I'm thinking about getting a ryzen 3 but I can't decide if I want to go with the 1200 or the 1300x, plz help me.

  39. MatrixC27H says:

    [email protected],8ghz & 1060 6gb & 8gb ram works still rly good for me 🙂

  40. LastStopGaming says:

    Intels processers age really well I guess.

  41. João Moura says:

    i have a i5 750 , built with a 1060 3gb and 8gb, also starts with a ssd. The only game i have problems was the forza horizon 3 just because the game it was not programmed correctly and has many crashes, but is still playable and stays between 40 to 50 fps until crash to desktop for no reason…

  42. Andrew says:

    I'm still rocking a i3 530 with a mild OC. 🙂

  43. Jammy Dodger says:

    I'm still using this CPU, i5 750 overclocked to 4.00Ghz on liquid cooling (corsair H100i v1). Running with a now aging GTX 770 by MSI. Game performance is good and can even run games at 2560×1440 such as War Thunder and a few other titles. 1080p gaming stands strong up to new titles like Battlefield 1. However struggling to run games like PUBG at good settings as well as Kingdom come deliverance. Good CPU overall, if you're curious at all my CPU idles at about 50-55 and peaks at 65-70 which is quite toasty, but I need the performance these days.

    Waiting for crypto miners to stop raping the hardware market so that I can buy a new build.

  44. aizo alislam says:

    Marketing

  45. Nandre says:

    Para que tu test sea preciso el i5 750 Oc @ 3.4GHz una frecuencia fácil de llegar, corriendo los dos a la misma velocidad sería en algunos casos cercano el rendimiento, después de 8 años de desarrollo es bajo el rendimiento del i5 7500

  46. Cyrano Burleson says:

    Can you do one with overclocking

  47. Omar Díaz says:

    it runs better than my fukin amd a10 7850k at 100 celsius degrees runing gta at 26 fps with a gtx 1060 6gb on ultra settings 🙁

  48. Leowo says:

    8 Years later…
    The Ryzen 7 1700 was released in 2017 in other words it's one of the first Ryzen processors
    It's build with AMD's Zen Architecture
    The 1700 used AMD's AM4 Socket and ran with DDR4
    It's a 8-Core 16 Threads processor just like modern Ryzen 7's running at 3Ghz and a 65W TDP
    With a launch price right about 329 Dollars

    The Ryzen 7 1700 was priced identically to the 17000 and that's our modern contender, AMD's Ryzen 7 17000
    This one was released in 2025 as part of AMD's Zen++++++ architecture
    It uses the AM7 Socket and runs with DDR5 memory
    Like the 1700 and all ryzen 7's that succeeded it the Ryzen 7 17000 is a 8-core 16-threads processor and runs at 3.8Ghz and has a much tighter 35W TDP….

  49. Todd Dorey says:

    Yes it can and it can use the HTC Vive with no issues.
    I have an i5 750 (Never been OC) with a GTX 970 Amped Edition (which I barely ever OC)
    Runs VR good, however not on high graphics but personally I don't care, it still looks great and is enjoyable to the point I wouldn't pay attention to it, which is the point of games and VR isnt it? As well as games like Fallout 4, ESO and the Witcher 3 at max settings. I haven't had any issues. Upgrading your chipset every 3 years is a waste of money in my opinion unless you're using it as a workstation. Benchmark numbers create paranoia when you look at things in comparison especially to stuff like an i5 750 but it does not mean they still can keep up with some of the big titles and PC's today. You just need to know how to utilize your hardware better.

  50. bruceownsu says:

    4:27 DUES is pronounced deeyas not "dayus"

    stop with the lazy murican-english please, if you can't pronounce it then don't even try.

  51. Jim Georgiev says:

    did you try overclocking the i5 750 i got one to run very stable at 2.93ghz on air on an asus board. great video as usual

  52. kifla says:

    Overclock the i5-750 to 4ghz and they're the same lol

  53. Felix Mathison says:

    i5 750 4ghz oc vs i5 7500

  54. FBI says:

    i5 750 price is around 7 – 10 usd in my country

  55. Tumas s says:

    A lot of people say intel hasn't improved the i series as much since sandy bridge, this video makes me want to argue they haven't changed it a whole lot since even the gen 1 series!
    It would appear most of the "gains" were simply from Die shrinks.
    Back in the day the early i series would have competed with the Phenom II gen of processors, which were well priced processors for their time, but still held no candle to to the i series.
    Then bulldozer was released by amd in 2011 and the rest is history regarding intels lack of innovation.

    I know this video is a year old. Can you possibly re-upload the same video using the same rx480 as reference, but using an i5-8500 possibly? Coffee lake was suppose to be one of the bigger bumps since sandy bridge.

  56. The lqlqlq BG says:

    strange on cs go i5 750 i get 250 fps on low why you got 178 fps

  57. King Dunga says:

    i have i5 760 and still can play modern games on 60 fps using my 60hz tv i dun need more than 60 fps

  58. DoroZ015 says:

    u prob wont read this but i am not really good with pc part yet never really cared but im starting to get into it so if i have 100 cpu usage does it give me inputlags ?

  59. h2oaddict28 says:

    I get around 50% performance improvement in cinebench r15 by overclocking the 750 to 4.1ghz, though you need a cooler that is capable of dissipating 225w.
    My 3570k is around 25% faster than that at 4.4ghz, (got one that doesn't overclock very well).
    Both of these have a hard time running some modern games at over 60fps, planning on upgrading to a 3700x when it comes out as it is the first cpu to be worth the upgrade in terms of extra performance and price ,if the rumors turn out to be true.

  60. Atanas Todorov says:

    I5-750 Are Born for sin. 3,8 – MHz/ 20×190/ without more V.

  61. Maks Xerox says:

    I'm shocked !

  62. hi says:

    hey man whats the best gpu for this card ?

  63. Liviu003 says:

    i5 750 3,4Ghz, 20gb RAM and 1070 gigabyte…used mostly for rendering…still happy:)

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